-WASTE GAME 2-

For those of you out there who are trying to figure out the byzantine ziggurat's answer this time around, here's some information i've collected. any theories or information may or may not lead to the solution. remember, i'm playing this just like you.

This page can be accessed a few different ways.

you click on the white ships and a picture pops up (see below) of a greek ship. written on the side of the ships are greek letters, some obscured by waves. the ships float around, and the page refreshes itself every minute automatically. when one of the ships "docks" at Crete, you can click on it and a password page pops up. there are four password boxes, 30 characters in length, with greek symbols in front of the boxes. what you enter at that point is the trick. Here is what the password pages look like:

appeared first, named ship 0 because in the cgi script that makes the image appear, it uses this page to pull the picture. you can click on the pic above and it'll take you to here:
http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?0

appeared second, named ship 1 because in the cgi script that makes the image appear, it uses this page to pull the picture. you can click on the pic above and it'll take you to here:
http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?1

appeared third, named ship 2 because in the cgi script that makes the image appear, it uses this page to pull the picture. you can click on the pic above and it'll take you to here:
http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?2

appeared fourth, named ship 3 because in the cgi script that makes the image appear, it uses this page to pull the picture. you can click on the pic above and it'll take you to here:
http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?3

appeared fifth, named ship 4 because in the cgi script that makes the image appear, it uses this page to pull the picture. you can click on the pic above and it'll take you to here:
http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?4

appeared sixth, named ship 5 because in the cgi script that makes the image appear, it uses this page to pull the picture. you can click on the pic above and it'll take you to here:
http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?5

appeared seventh, named ship 6 because in the cgi script that makes the image appear, it uses this page to pull the picture. you can click on the pic above and it'll take you to here:
http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?6

THIS SEEMS TO BE THE LAST SHIP THAT WILL APPEAR. on the byzantine ziggurat page on radiohead.com, the following appears:

...and so seven ships were set adrift under the wondering eye of Poseidon on a journey to the Island of Crete to fulfil the Legend of the Minotaur.

So, these seven ships are it.

Some (perhaps) notable things brought up on the radiohead.com message board, or just some things to consider:

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1) Each one of the boats will dock at a certain time and place... Boat 1 docks at Crete... I think the others docked already but we missed it.
2) Each one will stay for 10-15 minutes... and will sail for about 2 hours (or more)... you can only enter a password while it's docked... (like the Crete one just left).
3) We must decrypt the code on the boats... it's probably some kind of word game, where greek letters stand for english letters... in some way.... i don't think it's mathematical, cause maxk had been asked to put a less mathematical game this time. And it must be connected with the story at www.waste-game.com .
4) By the time a boat docks, you can only see the password boxes but you can't see the boat. If you want to see it even when it's docked you can access its picture here:
boat 0: http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?0
boat 1: http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?1
boat 2: http://www.the-ziggurat.com/cgi-bin/mapdetail.cgi?2
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Get this:
In the picture of boat 1, you can see that there are 4 pieces of the code hidden by the waves:
- Wave one hides 1 letter.
- Wave two hides 2 letters.
- Wave three hides 2 letters.
- Wave four hides 3 letters.
And what did we get in that password boxes??? 4 words: "beta", "beta gamma", "beta delta", "beta gamma zeta"... matches exactly to the blanks... now when you put it inside the blanks you still got nothing but gibbrish... but I'm sure that's what missing in there. Good luck figuring it out...
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beta
beta gamma
beta delta
beta gamma zeta

were next to the password boxes (30 characters each) when ship1 docked at Crete. Don't know where Crete is on the map? SEE BELOW
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boat 0: a__lta_____zealt with possibly a b (beta)
under the first wave.

boat 1: bgz__mo__nb___eb

boat 2: geipbek_anblmzgb

boat 3: dz_l_p__od__l

I and k Peterzell translated it. For the other ships.
Look at the translations made by paul.

I found this on the Mortigi Tempo messageboard, it was
posted by futureman:
http://www.lowndes.org/images/6.gif
Another ship.

I think that the greek characters are anagrams. They
stand for the words, but are mixed together.

S_KuPeRS
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just wanted you to know that there is a new 5th ship...

dunno what it means though...

as far as i can tell, the letters on this ship are

ez_ob_lkl_ _ otone
(may also be ez_ob_lkl_otouz/otonz - mike)
paul
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there's a 6th ship now
and the letters are barely visible at all:

l_ed_a_ _ _ _ bd _ _ olks
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I don't know if means anything or not but if you compare these map to the waste game map you will notice that on the waste game map it shows land where the Black sea and the Sea of Marmara is supposed to be and Constantinople which is the capital of the byzantine empire(Istanbul present day) is right at the inlet where the two bodies of water meet I think this called the Bosporus.And the Sea of Marmara is connected to the Aegean sea by the Dardanelles straits.
Anyway I don't know if this is helpful but just thought I would send this in.

jason
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could be the beta in the past word screen stands for byznatine and the zeta
stands for ziggurat?

b
bg
bd
bgz

z
ze
zd
zeb

thrill000
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i'm looking into the numerical approach...

on the 2 password pages (ships 1 and 5)

if you change the greek to numbers you get

7
75
74
752

on the 1st and

2
23
24
237

seems like there might be a pattern but i'm not sure

also on the limited edition to Amnesiac inside the book is that
library card thing with all those due dates on it...
maybe the translated numbers MIGHT have to do with those?
dunno

paul
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Crete has the red oval around it in the map below. The yellow "x" is approximately where ship1 docked earlier, and passwords could be accessed then by clicking on the ship.

Ship1 has docked at least five times, approximately at the point marked with a yellow "x" on the map up above.

Other ships which touch land do not have a pop-up password window when clicked on(as of yet). The only password entry page discovered thusfar is entered when ship1 or ship5 touches Crete. Click on ship1 or ship5 and enter your password(s?).

the boat's docking time is changing constantly. the time range so far has been between 6 - 8:30 Central.

All times listed as US Central Time.

#1) 7/05 ship1- NW Crete - 8:30 pm
#2) 7/06 ship1 - NW Crete - 8:30 am
#3) 7/06 ship1 - NW Crete - 8:00 - 8:30 pm
#4) 7/07 ship1 - NW Crete - 7:30 am
#5) 7/07 ship1 - NW Crete - 6:20 pm - 6:35 pm
#6) 7/09 ship5 - SW Crete - 1:45 - 2:00 pm
#7) 7/09 ship1 - NW Crete - 3:30 - 3:45 pm
#8) 7/09 ship5 - SW Crete - 6:45 - 7:00 pm
#9) 7/10 ship5 - SW Crete - 3:40 - 3:50 pm

the ships remained at Crete for about 5-15 minutes then left.

HELP US ALL! we're trying to solve this. hopefully you are to. if you see anything missing that you might have figured out, CLICK BELOW and email me some info you've got! translations of letters, theories, etc. thanks everyone. mike|[let down]